Sunday Conference 11July 2010

Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:40:48 AM): sirji gm means
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:41:11 AM): gm means good morning
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:41:24 AM): ok sirji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:41:31 AM):
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:42:09 AM): sirji yesterday at night i send you three mails did you got it
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:42:46 AM): yes but i think i m not having programme to open those files
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:43:42 AM): pdf software download from filehippo.com
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:44:06 AM): gimme link please
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:44:36 AM): reason i take care from un known sites
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:44:57 AM): http://filehippo.com/
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:45:19 AM): ok
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:46:25 AM): not dangerous site
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:47:25 AM): pdf software nahi hai ispe
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:48:27 AM): you can down load from there without any problems either dangerous
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:48:50 AM): flash player
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:49:05 AM): but which one??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:50:24 AM): flash player 10.1.53.64(ie)
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:50:48 AM): it will take time 20 minuts
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:51:04 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:51:17 AM): this will read pdf ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 9:51:24 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:51:35 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:57:37 AM): shamim not coming will see later
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 9:58:12 AM): Details of Bank Accounts R K Global Shares & Securities Ltd NSE (CM) NSE (F&O) HDFC Bank Ltd. 00030340025017 / 00030340025017 - Branch-Suriyakiran Buldg,KGMarg,-IFSE Code-0000003 ICICI Bank Ltd 000705017296 / 000705017296 / 000705017296 -Branch -Canaught Place -IFSE Code-ICIC0000007 Axis Bank Ltd. 007010200043519-Branch -Barakhamba Road / IFSE Code-UTIB0000007 State Bank of India 00000030254343490 / Branch -Indraprastha Estate / IFSE Code -SBIN0001187 Punjab National Bank 153002100567479
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:00:24 AM): sirji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:00:54 AM): are u enjoying here with me ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:01:07 AM): yes ofcourse
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:01:51 AM): have u sold that stuff ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:02:21 AM): no sir it will take time
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:02:42 AM): let it be
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:02:51 AM): yes
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:03:44 AM): on monday i have to buy icici august future
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:04:01 AM): hai na sirji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:04:19 AM): be ready i will give u entry price
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:04:36 AM): yes im ready
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:04:42 AM): ok
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:05:29 AM): sirji i will take call also
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:05:42 AM): tell me ur trading capital
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:06:11 AM): now 2 to 2.2 lac
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:07:02 AM): so for 5 to 8 % will do or u want more on it ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:07:11 AM): if i will sell that stuff it will increase ner 3.2---3.3 lac
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:07:14 AM): per month
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:07:53 AM): i want more bcos i have some liabiliy
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:08:17 AM): thats why m askin 24 k per month risk free is not bad
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:08:37 AM): it may increase to any extent
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:08:46 AM): please tell me in details
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:08:52 AM): depend on stars
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:09:16 AM): but my stars is not good
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:09:38 AM): suppose we will buy icici for a tgt vof 920
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:10:25 AM): means it will give us 4 %
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:10:51 AM): is it ok na
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:10:58 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:11:14 AM): but when ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:11:29 AM): when sirji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:11:53 AM): see when it will kiss 920,,,
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:12:14 AM): may be in 3 days may be in 30 day
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:12:52 AM): is it correct na..
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:13:27 AM): but sirji if it will go down what i will do
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:14:04 AM): see for that mtm must be ready
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:14:10 AM): from nifty 5400 correction start
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:14:36 AM): who is saying
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:14:58 AM): my fear think so
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:15:33 AM): thats why u are here at dhanvarsha na
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:15:40 AM): jo bhi ho i will buy it in your guidence
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:15:51 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:16:29 AM): see when all were saying sell tata steel i gave buy call
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:16:39 AM): dar jate jate thoda time lage ga
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:16:50 AM): and and it moved up by 2 %
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:17:05 AM): market ne mujhko bahut rolaya hai
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:17:28 AM): have u got my tata steel buy call na on e mail
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:17:48 AM): have u seen at dv
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:18:05 AM): now im in a possition na ghar ka na ghat ka
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:18:11 AM): no sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:18:31 AM): have u join my yahoo group
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:18:33 AM): when sir ji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:19:27 AM): please register at http://dhanvarshagrp.blogspot.com/ http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/dhanvarsha/
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:19:57 AM): ok sir ji i will register it
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:20:00 AM): please register on both links
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:20:15 AM): see at dv in active calls
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:21:02 AM): but i was thinking that i will get reco by only yahoo conf
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:21:32 AM): see there are 4 sources
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:21:36 AM): dv
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:21:40 AM): email
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:21:51 AM): y msgr/ conf
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:21:56 AM): sms
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:22:34 AM): not got sms either y msgr
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:22:56 AM): regarding ts na >>
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:22:57 AM): i misse it
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:23:16 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:24:09 AM): see my net was troubling on friday so nothing was proper in sequence na
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:24:49 AM): yes also my alliance net was disc
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:25:04 AM): ok
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:25:21 AM): only i was but i have two connction
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:25:36 AM): bajaj alliance and bsnl
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:25:46 AM): bsnl too slow
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:26:52 AM): in which price i shoud buy icici
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:28:28 AM): sirji you have got any nws regarding essar till now
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:28:37 AM): see it was closed at 869
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:29:16 AM): and spot is 877
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:29:54 AM): but some days ago a rumer was in icici
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:30:10 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:30:27 AM): it was rumour na or reality
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:31:16 AM): at that time icici was at 889 and quickly down at 840 label then recover
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:31:58 AM): and whole earned 40 t0 50 ponts in 30 mins dv
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:32:38 AM): and whole DV earned 40 t0 50 points in 30 mins
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:32:42 AM): im seeing this but himmat nahi juta paya 845 per
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:33:04 AM): no i gave short call at 883
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:33:18 AM): in futures
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:33:32 AM): that time i was not in your guidence
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:33:52 AM): agar aap pahle mil gaye hote
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:34:07 AM): to himmat mujh mein bhi hoti
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:34:11 AM): abhi bhi kuch nahi gaya
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:35:17 AM): aap ki maherbani sirji dobte ko tinke ka sahara hi bahut ahi lekin ab to pahad ka sahra mil gaya hai
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:35:43 AM): phir dar kahe ka
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:36:33 AM): cool
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:36:40 AM): yes
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:39:08 AM): dada
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:40:59 AM): yes
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:41:33 AM): itni shanti confrance me
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:41:53 AM): abhi garmi aaegi
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:42:04 AM): haha
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:42:16 AM): tum shamim se baat karo
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:42:20 AM): shamim u from
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:42:27 AM): kolkata
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:42:33 AM): hello
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:42:39 AM): and you
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:42:43 AM): kya karte ho ap
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:42:54 AM): business
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:42:54 AM): me mumbai
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:43:02 AM): oh yaa
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:43:21 AM): kesa busines
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:43:22 AM): mujhe bhi mubai jana hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:43:29 AM): ajau
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:43:32 AM): car and bakery
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:43:42 AM): mum au indor au
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:43:53 AM): mera wahan sab rahta hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:43:55 AM): car batry
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:44:03 AM): thak you
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:44:14 AM): to apko aana chaiye
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:44:23 AM): no travelling
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:44:31 AM): ayunga
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:44:36 AM): y
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:44:44 AM): apki age
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:44:50 AM): car means i have taxis
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:44:58 AM): 33yars
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:45:19 AM): ok
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:45:28 AM): ur age
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:45:35 AM): 33yrs
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:45:40 AM): mine 41
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:46:00 AM): ok
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:46:00 AM): ur age
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:46:11 AM): 33
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:46:22 AM): ok
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:46:23 AM): and you
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:46:41 AM): fir to travel kar sakte he ap
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:46:49 AM): my age 25
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:47:02 AM): lekin waqt nahi milta hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:47:31 AM): waqt to nikalna padta he
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:47:31 AM): programm in jan
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:47:36 AM): market kaha jaaega yiha se ??
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:47:47 AM): 5450
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:48:11 AM): what do you think sirji
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:48:16 AM): itni dinse sunta hu down jayega
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:48:23 AM): bt jata nai
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:48:40 AM): down bolkar up jara hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:48:40 AM): ha bt mene dada se nai pucha
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:48:49 AM): ha
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:49:07 AM): lagta he nifty 6k jayega
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:49:34 AM): market kahi bi jaye hame kya
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:49:35 AM): sirji aap batao
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:49:44 AM): kamake nikal jau
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:50:11 AM): dadaji apko tip dete hena
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:50:25 AM): mita hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:50:36 AM): bhai ji me koi sir nai
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 10:50:36 AM): milta hai
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:50:57 AM): to make profit n exit
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:51:12 AM): del rakhte ho kya ap
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:51:25 AM): mr anjani why are u cool ??
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:51:44 AM): i am still not trading hence cool...
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:52:09 AM): koi nah... i but u can participate na
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:52:15 AM): haha me 2
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:52:20 AM): but my investment is mainly on mfs till now.
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:53:12 AM): i go thorugh ur charts that u send on RCOM etc.
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:53:52 AM): can one still trade on bharti airtell
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:54:03 AM): dadaji inka name anjani he
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:54:40 AM): yep i am male. My name is Anjani Kumar Singh
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:54:46 AM): ask mr ak
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:54:52 AM): do not get confussed by name..
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:54:55 AM):
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:55:11 AM):
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:55:25 AM): me ladki patane thori aya hu
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:55:38 AM):
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:55:41 AM): jo confused ho jau
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:55:48 AM):
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:56:16 AM): but ....unmarried to hai na
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:56:33 AM): bt asa name kyu rakha
aksinghv (7/11/2010 10:56:38 AM): no. i am 41 and with 2 kids by gods grace
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:56:49 AM): gd
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:56:52 AM): tabhi shamim aur anjani bachchhe lage naam ,,,,,,,,
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 10:57:11 AM): ap bi mere dada jese ho fir
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 10:57:27 AM): sabko dada bana le
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:02:11 AM): kolkata mein badon ko dada bolte hain haha ha
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:02:26 AM): i know dada
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:02:43 AM): coz in my area all bengalis are dada
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:03:07 AM): we respect them by saying dada
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:03:18 AM): but in yes
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:04:04 AM):
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:04:15 AM): sirji i have to go
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:04:19 AM):
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:04:24 AM): ok cua
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:04:26 AM): y
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:04:34 AM): BY BY ALL OF YOU
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:04:41 AM): pele hi bhot shanti he
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:04:57 AM): ur ap bi ja rahe ho
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:05:06 AM): tusi na jau
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:05:27 AM): tusi gr8 ho sonu ji
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:05:59 AM): sorry i have to recive my friend at howrah station who is comming from patna
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:06:19 AM): ok
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:06:21 AM): ok
Mohammad Shamim (7/11/2010 11:06:27 AM): ok
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:06:33 AM): bye
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:11:00 AM): sonu
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:12:05 AM): mr ak
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:12:14 AM): yep sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:12:43 AM): what are u anlysing
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:14:09 AM): i am not doing any analysis as i have not undergone training frm your. I am planning to have the training some time next month
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:16:50 AM): see close this window restart again
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:17:00 AM): i am here to learn good trading. with less loss but good gain
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:17:04 AM): ok sir
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:23:56 AM): good morning sir,
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:23:59 AM): Hello All
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:24:02 AM): hi gm
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:24:13 AM): hello aksighvji
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:24:23 AM): hello
SHIVANSH Rai (7/11/2010 11:24:23 AM): hi all
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:24:41 AM): hello shivanshji
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:24:50 AM): what is the Yahoo version used by you all? I am using 10.0.0.1270-us
SHIVANSH Rai (7/11/2010 11:24:56 AM): hello sir
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:25:51 AM): i will be back in a few minutes
sonu chetnani (7/11/2010 11:26:13 AM): hi all
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:26:29 AM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:39:27 AM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:39:27 AM): yes
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:39:41 AM): how to trade on options and futures? Anjani Singh: Should one trade only futures or options... Anjani Singh: is it good to short options?
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:41:18 AM): we will
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:41:42 AM): who all r here
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:41:47 AM): me
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:41:50 AM): Anjani
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:41:52 AM): me
SHIVANSH Rai (7/11/2010 11:41:59 AM): ys
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:42:07 AM): k
SHIVANSH Rai (7/11/2010 11:42:13 AM): ys
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:42:45 AM): why u all r cool
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:42:56 AM): carry on discussions
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:43:08 AM): sir, please teach us the above question
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:43:15 AM): Need your teachings..
SHIVANSH Rai (7/11/2010 11:44:05 AM): ys wellcome
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:44:15 AM): see i m busy in other works and
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:44:31 AM): i will repost the question
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:44:44 AM): not seeing any question too
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:45:10 AM): how to trade on options and futures? Anjani Singh: Should one trade only futures or options... Anjani Singh: is it good to short options?
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:45:58 AM): what is the difference in shorting put and buying nifty?
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:46:03 AM): futures?
lakshmanan c (7/11/2010 11:46:13 AM): gm
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:46:44 AM): good morning and welcome to the educative conference session
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:47:03 AM): laxmanji please answer these questions .....how to trade on options and futures? Anjani Singh: Should one trade only futures or options... Anjani Singh: is it good to short options? aksinghv: what is the difference in shorting put and buying nifty?
lakshmanan c (7/11/2010 11:47:06 AM): thanx
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:47:28 AM): gm laxmanji
lakshmanan c (7/11/2010 11:47:43 AM): gm
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:49:29 AM): i know one software but have not effectively used as i am novice still learning.. it is options oracle. http://www.samoasky.com/
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:49:34 AM): has anyone used this.
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:49:39 AM): options and futures are derivatives and can be traded at derivative segment of NSE only ...
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:50:04 AM): just like cash
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:51:00 AM): ok. how risky is it than cash segment?
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:51:00 AM): the difference is u can trade for future date upto 3 months
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:51:20 AM): ok.
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:51:30 AM): sir, at this point can i ask a question sir,
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:51:44 AM): it is more ....most beneficial than cash
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:52:35 AM): u all are here to project ur questions at discussion .....
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:52:51 AM): so u can ask here
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:53:30 AM): then sir, it is said in futures it can be rolled to next month or next month up to three months if time is there then
lakshmanan c (7/11/2010 11:53:36 AM): what is called basis
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:53:55 AM): called rool over
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:54:02 AM): sorry roll over
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:54:29 AM): then sir, i have a position short at 5300 in july say
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:55:08 AM): on the last thursday the rate is 5200 instead of booking a loss i can roll over is the concept
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:55:18 AM): can i get more knowledge on this sir,
aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:55:35 AM): what does roll over mean? Does it mean sell on the last thrusday and again buy or Buy first and then sell at the end of the trading window
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 11:56:20 AM): all are same
govind deekshit (7/11/2010 11:56:53 AM): in such a case is it not a fresh buying
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aksinghv (7/11/2010 11:58:04 AM): how do you come to know that broker has not treated it as a new order just it is roll over? is there a way to find that
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aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:02:21 PM): learning ka kya hua...
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:02:39 PM): ask laxmanji na
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:03:12 PM): he is capable in answering all question s
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:04:07 PM): mr laxmanji
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:05:10 PM): laxmanji r u there
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:07:56 PM): sirji
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:08:00 PM): good moring
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:08:14 PM): hi bibin and arvind ji welcome
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:08:24 PM): thanks
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:08:38 PM): please answer the query
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:08:40 PM): your quarry
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:08:46 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:08:53 PM): ak s query
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:09:30 PM): sirji
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:09:31 PM): To drade in option, future, cash is once choice
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:09:36 PM): is ur net working now
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:09:52 PM): i wanted regarding ongc
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:09:53 PM): there are advantage and dis advantages
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:09:59 PM): your opinion
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:10:05 PM): technically how it is
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:10:18 PM): options are not as liquid as future.
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:10:32 PM): i m at rcom 170 put also for 2 i1 lot now it is 1 rp
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:10:37 PM): still holding it
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:10:48 PM): even i felt head and shoulder pattern
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:10:58 PM): witing options is costly affair and gains are limited
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:11:40 PM): but people interested in writing more no of option usally make money
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:12:05 PM): say 25-50 lots min
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:12:22 PM): please use perfect sentences and do not enter 1 word sentences ....write complete sensible sentence and then press enter .... coz it is a group and we are not chatting 1 to 1 ...ok bibin ..
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:12:40 PM): sorry sir i regret it
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:13:02 PM): how should one write option.. any strategy suppose NIFTY is trading at 5124 then which nifty put should be shorted. 5150 or 5200 or 5300? An insight woudl be helpful.
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:13:46 PM): sir i wanted to ask the technicals regarding ongc and rcom 170 put i have rcom 170 put bought for 2 rp which is now 1 rp. ongc 1200 put bought for 6 which is now 3 please advice..
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:13:49 PM): for safer side write 5300 call or 4900 put
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:15:12 PM): and keep stop loss as 5250 for call and 5000 for put
lakshmanan c (7/11/2010 12:15:57 PM): sir,iam here
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:17:12 PM): sir what happens if the price rises to 5300 when i have shorted 5300cal?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:17:29 PM): diff in shorting put and buying future is that as time passes the put loses premium but future doesnot.
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:17:54 PM): put to short is higher i think 5300
Bibin Prasannan (7/11/2010 12:17:59 PM): call lower
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:19:10 PM): premium will increase ( we will incurr loss) i will give example
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:20:43 PM): ok. your example will certainly unfold the understanding
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:21:56 PM): suppose at beginning of month when market 5100 you shorted 5300 call usally around 40-50/- and near month end even if market is 5250 the call will be trading near 10-20
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:22:14 PM): so ou are in profit
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:22:48 PM): take another example
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:23:08 PM): how much will be the profit?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:24:00 PM): suppose at begignning of month you sold NF at 5100 and sold 5100 call at 175
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:25:46 PM): now the market at the end of month market is 5200 . in future you loose 100/- where as in option you will pay only 100 so you profit 75/-
kumudhan kumu (7/11/2010 12:25:47 PM): hello all...
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:26:19 PM): i think this is clear
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:26:41 PM): the risk in future and writting option is same
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:27:00 PM): now, suppose NF falls to 5000 then what is the gain or loss?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:27:36 PM): but if market rise by 100 pts option will rise by 50-60 pts only for same day
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:28:33 PM): Nf falls to 5000 you get 100/-for future and option you get 175
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:28:50 PM): ok.
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:30:13 PM): current NF=5352.45, is it advisable to short NF5300CE (CMP=114.60)?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:31:02 PM): my opion ys
kumudhan kumu (7/11/2010 12:31:29 PM): if there s any big differerence between shortinf a call or buying a put?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:31:48 PM): keep stop loss marketing closing basis above 5400
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:32:07 PM): ys
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:33:11 PM): ok. now suppose the cmp raises to 5400, then broker would cut the margin rite? if the price gooes down to 5300, will the broker deposit the margin?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:33:21 PM): sort shorting call you require margin= margin of future and buying put you require premium amount only
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:33:51 PM): no
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:34:24 PM): in a way it is a bit risky right?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:34:52 PM): it is same future
kumudhan kumu (7/11/2010 12:35:31 PM): kumudhan6600: if there s any big differerence between shortinf a call or buying a put?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:35:59 PM): note one thing buying option is your buying an asset whose death is predifined
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:36:12 PM): sort shorting call you require margin= margin of future and buying put you require premium amount only
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:37:10 PM): for writing you reuire about 40000/- in nifty and buying you require only 5000/-
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:37:45 PM): technically there is not much diff except margin
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:38:15 PM): how long one shoud hold the shorting (writing)? Is it till the end of expiry or can i square off in couple of days? If I can square off how much woudl be the profit?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:38:36 PM): on the contrary the option premium goes no reducing as time passe for same value of NIFTY
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:39:04 PM): that is your choice
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:39:22 PM): if you are in profit you can close any time
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:39:43 PM): Hi Arvind: do you use Option oracle (http://www.samoasky.com/) for analysis?
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:39:57 PM): ok. that is good.
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:40:20 PM): no i will go through now
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:40:20 PM): but the profits woudl be reduced
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:40:47 PM): i have the tool but but do not understand how to use it.
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:40:59 PM): profit is reduced for option buyer not seller
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:42:51 PM): oh. Suppose on the first day i shorted NF 5300CE @ 100, my profit is 5000.00. Now after 2 days, I squared off this when CMP of NF5300CE is 78, still my profit would be 5000. rite?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:42:52 PM): i opened the site put it wuill take time to read and understand. i will do it today
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:43:10 PM): which tool you are having
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:43:22 PM): great. http://www.samoasky.com/download/optionsoracle/optionsoracle.exe
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:43:55 PM): i ahve this tool called otionsoracle. This is free tool that woks with NIFTY
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:43:58 PM): no you received 100 and you are paying back 78
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:44:28 PM): ok. so my profit woudl (100-78=22)
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:44:31 PM): got it.
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:44:47 PM): coorect
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:44:56 PM): wow
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:45:03 PM): thanks for teaching..
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:45:16 PM): thank you also
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:45:19 PM): Kailash Sir: do you provide options input
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:45:25 PM): its my previlage
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:45:59 PM): i am glad that today i joined the conference. it is great learning.
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:46:20 PM): do you often tradine in options?
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:46:47 PM): Guide for the software: http://www.samoasky.com/download/optionsoracle/optionsoracle.pdf
dhanvarshagrp (7/11/2010 12:46:49 PM): see my updates are at dhanvarsha ,,,, u can explore it 1200 artcle are there all r related to trading only ... only cream ....
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:47:06 PM): ys iam trading only option
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:47:12 PM): ok sir
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:47:34 PM): that is good. i guess mostly writing options. rite?
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:47:35 PM): i have downloaded the software
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:47:42 PM): thanks
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:48:00 PM): bigg are writing options
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:48:12 PM): they are writing in lakhs
Arvind Gandhi (7/11/2010 12:48:25 PM): just like insurance co
aksinghv (7/11/2010 12:48:50 PM): OK . I will be back in 30 minutes. Sorry i have to go. But, I am not leaving the conference