Tuesday, July 20, 2010

Evening Discussion 19 July 2010

mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 5:55:35 PM): yes sir
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 5:55:41 PM): good evening sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 5:55:42 PM): we two r in
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 5:56:21 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 5:56:57 PM): no one able to make it
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 5:57:36 PM): see prediction worked
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 5:57:43 PM): as posted at dv
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 5:59:00 PM): yes sir aap ki prediction always correct
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 5:59:33 PM): but if gain na ho to kis kam ki
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:01:19 PM): sir todays market behaviour was little bit confusing
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:02:31 PM): u were seeing na weakness was on signals
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:02:52 PM): yes sir it was very much there
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:15:57 PM): sir some times the net is not supporting as such got disconnected frequently
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:17:10 PM): hellow sir
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:24:39 PM): sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:24:50 PM): yes please tell me
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:25:18 PM): yes sir
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:25:45 PM): i was saying the net is also trouble frequently
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:26:01 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:26:29 PM): see we must cater and concider each hurdle
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:28:16 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:28:23 PM): now i can see u
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:29:07 PM): i was in the the old conference sir
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:29:57 PM): sir what is long call ,long put,short call and short put
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:30:10 PM): in intra we have only 2 long and short
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:30:51 PM): see all the chat portions are uploaded at http://clientsviews.blogspot.com/
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:31:32 PM): see i use two words generally
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:32:35 PM): buy nifty or buy pe5400 or buy rcom or go long in nifty at 5380 ... r these clear ?
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:34:18 PM): buy pe 5400 is option ------buy rcom is future trade
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:34:21 PM): niranjan
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:34:33 PM): yes
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:34:51 PM): am reading today archive sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:35:00 PM): option is having pe and ce
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:35:14 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:35:20 PM): in nifty
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:35:28 PM): in shares its pa and ca
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:35:32 PM): pe means put option
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:35:43 PM): ce means call option
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:35:49 PM): ca means call option
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:35:52 PM): yes
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:35:57 PM): ok got it sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:36:18 PM): so please do not do wrong in it
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:36:47 PM): k sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:38:08 PM): mahender
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:38:11 PM): sir what is difference between long call long put sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:38:46 PM): please do not confue with these words
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:39:19 PM): call means long put means short
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:39:30 PM): hope u got me
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:40:11 PM): yes
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:40:30 PM): yes sir i am here
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:41:08 PM): suppose u are haveng ce5400 means u are having right to buy nifty @ 5400
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:43:42 PM): if nifty will move up to 5600 then u will be at 200 point gain na
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:48:23 PM): m i correct
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:49:05 PM): yes i understand
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:49:17 PM): mahender
mahendra tanwar (7/19/2010 6:51:15 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:51:43 PM): same if u r having pe5400 means u r having right to short at 5400
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:52:10 PM): ok sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:52:13 PM): if nifty will fall to 5200 then u will earn 200 points
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:52:22 PM): k
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:53:05 PM): option buyers are alwaways long in options
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:53:25 PM): either put or call
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:53:55 PM): and options sellers are always short in options
niru jan (7/19/2010 6:58:12 PM): and we are both players right sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 6:59:38 PM): means ?
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:00:17 PM): i mean ur calls are option sel and option but depends on market conditions
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:00:31 PM): i mean ur calls are option sel and option long but depends on market conditions
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:00:40 PM): no
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:00:46 PM): no
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:00:57 PM): u will get only buy calls
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:01:02 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:01:21 PM): u can not sell options
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:01:36 PM): pe 5400 is a short call
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:01:49 PM): reason selling required holdings
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:02:11 PM): ok sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:02:39 PM): pe5400 was a buy call for u dear
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:03:05 PM): ok it goes to 5410 10 points is profits
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:03:20 PM): sell at 5410
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:04:48 PM): no if pe5400 u r holding at 76 at 5410 it will come down to 71
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:05:09 PM): means u will be at loss of 5 rs
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:05:35 PM): right mahender ?
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:06:43 PM): simple i buy pe 5400 at 76 and place target order higher like 80
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:07:24 PM): simple always buy low sale high
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:07:37 PM): and nothing
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:08:11 PM): yes,but its is hardet to find low ang high
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:08:53 PM): thatshy i m here to give u entry levels
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:09:02 PM): and exit levels
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:10:18 PM): yes when u are ther it is good sir ,but dont gives us fish sir teach us how to fish
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:11:04 PM): sir???
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:11:42 PM): see read at dhanvarsha
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:13:32 PM): k i will
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 7:18:52 PM): ge,sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:20:38 PM): so how was the day
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 7:20:57 PM): not as anticipated
smriti (7/19/2010 7:21:06 PM): sir hi
smriti (7/19/2010 7:21:17 PM): i m very worried abt r com puts now
smriti (7/19/2010 7:21:31 PM): pls give some startegy to comeout loss
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:22:26 PM): smriti see we are continuously making prfitable trades
smriti (7/19/2010 7:22:33 PM): correct sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:22:45 PM): so does that mean i book loss and come out
smriti (7/19/2010 7:23:33 PM): i am ok with that only if i book loss my gains wil be come 0
smriti (7/19/2010 7:23:45 PM): pls let me know
smriti (7/19/2010 7:24:13 PM): better i should then come out of it as it is depressing to see the loss evryday
smriti (7/19/2010 7:24:21 PM): out of sight out of mind
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:24:50 PM): in rcom to we got deception reching near to our tgt 2 times
smriti (7/19/2010 7:25:09 PM): ya agreed
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:25:12 PM): tecnically it is pull back
smriti (7/19/2010 7:25:25 PM): but today i saw lot of reccos on buying at this level
smriti (7/19/2010 7:25:28 PM): for higher trgts
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:25:55 PM): smriti
smriti (7/19/2010 7:26:00 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:26:07 PM): u are seeing me since last three months na
smriti (7/19/2010 7:26:20 PM): y sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:26:50 PM): and each time those bogus predictors ranaway na
smriti (7/19/2010 7:26:59 PM): y sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:27:06 PM): i am def not following them
smriti (7/19/2010 7:27:14 PM): but sir tell me
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:27:29 PM): when r com was at 197 all were saying 220
smriti (7/19/2010 7:27:43 PM): if r com is till bearish can i buy 190 put to make up loss
smriti (7/19/2010 7:27:51 PM): as u said buying 180 is not right
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:28:54 PM): good idea
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:29:00 PM): and i was always asking u all to avoid options buying
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:29:45 PM): i always tried my best to keep u all away from options trading
smriti (7/19/2010 7:29:57 PM): yes sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:30:00 PM): its not yr fault
smriti (7/19/2010 7:30:21 PM): i m not thinking that way
smriti (7/19/2010 7:30:21 PM): buiy i just want to check
smriti (7/19/2010 7:30:35 PM): or may be we can buy 200 call and put or something
smriti (7/19/2010 7:30:54 PM): because this kind of loss can be covered only with option i think
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:30:55 PM): i wrote in each article of time decay
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:30:56 PM): but how is future trading better than option trading
smriti (7/19/2010 7:31:32 PM): i think only nifty shoukd be traded in options
smriti (7/19/2010 7:31:42 PM): or i don know ya all say its risky
smriti (7/19/2010 7:31:47 PM): i agree
smriti (7/19/2010 7:31:53 PM): i lost in options
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:31:55 PM): my intention is see ur monthly acct balance rather than seeing rcom put
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:32:03 PM): r u at gain or loss
smriti (7/19/2010 7:32:29 PM): sir if i book loss i will may be up by only 5 or 6 k
smriti (7/19/2010 7:32:40 PM): i have to calculate
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:32:42 PM): no intra day ,no option ,then only future trading is left
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:34:13 PM): niranjan planned trade is beneficial
Ram (7/19/2010 7:34:47 PM): GE all!
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:34:49 PM): rather then clicking the orders
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:34:58 PM): ok
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:34:58 PM): planned option is good too then
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:35:02 PM): smriti
smriti (7/19/2010 7:35:06 PM): y sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:35:07 PM): tell me
smriti (7/19/2010 7:35:17 PM): y sir
Ram (7/19/2010 7:35:28 PM): wats the discussion going on?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:35:34 PM): how many negative trades are in ur acct till today ?
Ram (7/19/2010 7:35:44 PM): playing with options?
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:35:55 PM): yes
smriti (7/19/2010 7:36:09 PM): nothing except r com put air
smriti (7/19/2010 7:36:11 PM): and nifty puts now
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:36:46 PM): and isaw u made 1k on each trade
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:36:58 PM): in worst scene
smriti (7/19/2010 7:37:00 PM): y sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:37:54 PM): nothing else
smriti (7/19/2010 7:37:54 PM): sir i just trying to ask a strategy to minimze loss
smriti (7/19/2010 7:37:54 PM): that also if possible
smriti (7/19/2010 7:38:00 PM): if not i m ok
smriti (7/19/2010 7:38:14 PM): i dont have any problem
smriti (7/19/2010 7:38:21 PM): but i just wanna condition my mind
smriti (7/19/2010 7:38:36 PM): and know clearly
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:38:57 PM): but rcom will come down right as it is tecnically weak stock guessing
smriti (7/19/2010 7:39:12 PM): its just that i feel comfortable if i know that oka y i have to take this loss
smriti (7/19/2010 7:39:27 PM): whatever u u ll say i m fine with it
smriti (7/19/2010 7:39:38 PM): so if its weak niranjan
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:39:40 PM): ok
smriti (7/19/2010 7:39:48 PM): does it make sense to buy 190 put
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:39:49 PM): u have seen
smriti (7/19/2010 7:40:22 PM): y sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:41:00 PM): na i only advise seeing the signals
smriti (7/19/2010 7:41:09 PM): y sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:41:46 PM): i just hv to go for half n hour
smriti (7/19/2010 7:41:54 PM): ram u there
smriti (7/19/2010 7:42:29 PM): wht happnd
smriti (7/19/2010 7:42:32 PM): ne body thr
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:42:59 PM): see when ever i will get signals i ask u
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:43:10 PM): and give trade
smriti (7/19/2010 7:43:38 PM): ok sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:43:38 PM): no prob
smriti (7/19/2010 7:43:42 PM): now i will not ask again
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:43:50 PM): and two times till now i asked u to exit but none of u agreed
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:44:18 PM): tell me
smriti (7/19/2010 7:44:33 PM): y sir
smriti (7/19/2010 7:44:35 PM): true
smriti (7/19/2010 7:44:57 PM): but there was hope of r com to break its not happening
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:45:34 PM): if u are doing all positive trades till now ur two pending trades
Ram (7/19/2010 7:45:35 PM): smiriti??? u still holding rcom puts???
smriti (7/19/2010 7:46:02 PM): ya
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:46:30 PM): troubling a lot na
smriti (7/19/2010 7:46:51 PM): cause when it touched 6 somethin acc to tech annalysis it was to come down and r com put trgt 11
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:48:19 PM): yes technicals were supporting it
Ram (7/19/2010 7:48:26 PM): but from my personal experience,this type of situation really hurts.. even i undergone this..
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:48:37 PM): but operators are creating
Ram (7/19/2010 7:48:45 PM): but later on, learned should cut it asap..
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:48:46 PM): chaos
smriti (7/19/2010 7:48:54 PM): ya
smriti (7/19/2010 7:48:57 PM): so forget it
smriti (7/19/2010 7:49:01 PM): now
smriti (7/19/2010 7:49:09 PM): what about nifty puts?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:49:18 PM): see they are hidgly active
smriti (7/19/2010 7:49:37 PM): so it ok to hold them or exit?
Ram (7/19/2010 7:49:39 PM): if we keep waiting for the price to come to our levels, it will never come
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:50:05 PM): they saw no sellers at morning bought whole stuff and place price up
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:50:15 PM): in 3 mins
smriti (7/19/2010 7:50:25 PM): even in nifty?
Ram (7/19/2010 7:50:25 PM): not the case in nifty
Ram (7/19/2010 7:50:25 PM): its highly active stuff
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:50:54 PM): today too i said to niranjan
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:51:06 PM): not to enter in stk option
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:51:24 PM): coz there wqas no volume
Ram (7/19/2010 7:51:30 PM): yes.. stock options r really killing stuffs
Ram (7/19/2010 7:51:42 PM): http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wall-Street-gives-up-ground-rb-858529417.html?x=0&.v=9
smriti (7/19/2010 7:51:43 PM): pls tell me about nifty puts?
smriti (7/19/2010 7:51:52 PM): sir nifty puts
Ram (7/19/2010 7:52:24 PM): dont worry abt them.. even i'm still holding 8 lots of puts
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:52:26 PM): tell me ur holdings
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:52:27 PM):
smriti (7/19/2010 7:52:52 PM): 250 @ 74
Ram (7/19/2010 7:53:00 PM): but wat i did is done multiple trades on that, and certainly brought down the avg price on them
niru jan (7/19/2010 7:53:00 PM): ok will remember not to enter in stalk option
smriti (7/19/2010 7:53:21 PM): i could not do today , but tom i lll concentrate only on them
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:53:59 PM): please do not think like that
smriti (7/19/2010 7:54:01 PM): ya niranjan don hard earned money will go phooosh in a second
smriti (7/19/2010 7:54:53 PM): no sir i mean option is quite risky and unless really sure and well guided one should not do
smriti (7/19/2010 7:55:00 PM): baaki to aap hi bataoge
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:58:40 PM): see i bhave planned trades for u
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:59:07 PM): and u earned nice gains
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 7:59:51 PM): u r only in tension with ur pending trades
smriti (7/19/2010 8:00:34 PM): sir i am fine its ok now
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:00:38 PM): seeing others are
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:01:01 PM): recommending buy
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:01:44 PM): ok smriti will u tell us last months gains
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:01:55 PM): this months gains in all
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:02:43 PM): i think u r leading at 2 or 3rd position
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:05:06 PM): ok let me know who all are present
Ram (7/19/2010 8:06:33 PM): myself
niru jan (7/19/2010 8:06:33 PM): me too
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:09:27 PM): GE
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:09:51 PM): hi ge
Ram (7/19/2010 8:10:09 PM): GE
Amar (7/19/2010 8:10:11 PM): Hello All
Amar (7/19/2010 8:10:11 PM): Today Nifty behaved too much abnormal
Amar (7/19/2010 8:10:12 PM): AM i Right?
Ram (7/19/2010 8:10:31 PM): hi amar
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:10:32 PM): sirji what will be effect of the news of estalite+ Rcom take over on our put ption
Amar (7/19/2010 8:11:01 PM): Yes Ram
Amar (7/19/2010 8:11:01 PM): So gianed today?
Ram (7/19/2010 8:11:26 PM): yes.. ganied good enough
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:11:30 PM): see technically r com is neutral now
Amar (7/19/2010 8:12:03 PM): joininig to Dhanvarsha is too much lucky to all of us
Ram (7/19/2010 8:12:36 PM): dow turned negative now
Ram (7/19/2010 8:13:00 PM): trading pretty flat.. seems its finding direction
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:13:00 PM): do you mean we are trapped in put option
Amar (7/19/2010 8:13:10 PM): no not trapped but its the time effect
Amar (7/19/2010 8:13:28 PM): as expiry comes near this happens with options
Amar (7/19/2010 8:13:37 PM): so better to deal with futures
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:15:02 PM): what the way out?
niru jan (7/19/2010 8:15:30 PM): book losses
niru jan (7/19/2010 8:15:47 PM): or minimize losses
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:16:02 PM): sirji your opinion?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:16:48 PM): see u r 3 lots shorts in nifty at 76?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:16:56 PM): pe5400
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:18:24 PM): r u seeing me ??
Amar (7/19/2010 8:18:41 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:19:10 PM): now listen
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:19:36 PM): today there were impact of three four nice results
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:19:54 PM): canara bank
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:20:27 PM): ys
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:20:39 PM): ok
Amar (7/19/2010 8:21:06 PM): Sir u r set of rules on the blog are really very good and helpful for all of us to follow to succed in market
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:21:17 PM): so that the fall was stopped / holded by them
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:21:28 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:21:46 PM): i predicted in single line
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:21:52 PM): at dv
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:22:13 PM): hope u all have read and experianced it...
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:22:15 PM): pl repeat the line
Amar (7/19/2010 8:22:27 PM): Gap down opening is expected with confusing mood of market participants and due to this a tug of war in bulls and bears will keep the market in close 20 point range ...and later we can see that bears taking the lead over the bulls ..so be cautious its a crucial day ...
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:23:18 PM): tell me what was wrong in my prediction
Amar (7/19/2010 8:23:30 PM): nothing
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:24:05 PM): i am not asking what was wrong?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:24:17 PM): and in such close range max of members made 1k +
Amar (7/19/2010 8:24:34 PM): i too made 3K
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:24:47 PM): i am asking remidial measures? particlaurliy in RCOM
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:25:31 PM): mr gandhi i m seeing its chart
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:25:56 PM): and technically it is giving mix signals
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:26:08 PM): i think waiting from 7 to 1 was a mistake?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:26:16 PM): its trend is bearish
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:26:45 PM): was heading towards there
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:27:34 PM): but big fishes arrange to boost up
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:27:39 PM): but thenews is not making to happen the way we think
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:28:09 PM): no no impact of news and technicals
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:28:43 PM): i m closely watching its trades
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:29:01 PM): they are planning it
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:29:23 PM): selecting time to move up
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:29:31 PM): do you still expect it will reach 180 by this week end?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:29:59 PM): seeing its chart it is possible
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:30:29 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:30:45 PM): more to nit please do not add
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:31:01 PM): coz market psychology
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:31:05 PM): ys
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:31:19 PM): effects each move
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:31:33 PM): let me answer few questions
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:31:59 PM): if u buy rcom at 205 will u sell it 192?
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:32:17 PM): bought
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:32:35 PM): now i suggest one thing. pl go on giving level of rcom also so that we can trade in options
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:32:42 PM): question is for all of u ?
Ram (7/19/2010 8:33:00 PM): never
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:33:24 PM): arvind ji i m not clear
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:33:57 PM): actually itraded twice in RCOM put options twice and recovered RS.1/-
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:34:24 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:35:36 PM): but i saw and experianced that breakout/ break down can take it to any level
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:35:50 PM): scrip moves in waves
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:35:54 PM): see suppose you predict tomorrow --lvel for rcom as 185--190--193 then i will try to sell the put near 185 and buy back around 192
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:36:12 PM): options are manipulated by sells
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:36:44 PM): sellers
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:36:54 PM): so that end of day i having the position in RCOM with recovery of Rs.1/-
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:37:08 PM): u mean to say like i m giving nifty levels
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:37:32 PM): no doubt but we have to make money in this manupulations only
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:37:39 PM): yes
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:37:46 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:37:51 PM): done
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:38:34 PM): See rcom put wnet 2.10 one day 6.50 other day
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:38:56 PM): again wnt up to 4 and 1.90 other day
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:39:22 PM): see one day lt moved 20 rs
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:39:34 PM): so trading will definitely will help me to recover.
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:39:53 PM): and its option made low 24 and high 83
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:40:08 PM): ys rcom 180 put moved through 2.05 to 1
smriti (7/19/2010 8:40:36 PM): ok all bye for now
smriti (7/19/2010 8:40:41 PM): catch u all tom mor
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:40:44 PM): but it is successful when u are sure that it is moving in which direction
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:41:31 PM): but waing will definitely lossing on time front
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:41:42 PM): and its direction will come at charts after 30 minutes
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:42:08 PM): here there will be a chance though it is not 100%
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:42:17 PM): and after 30 mins it remains bearish only
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:42:47 PM): i will write levels of rcom
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:42:56 PM): here your skill will help us
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:43:30 PM): i always informed u on r com
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:44:10 PM): We cannot change the system but we have to change to ourselves
niru jan (7/19/2010 8:45:13 PM): sir has informed u to come out of rcom twice and i see few still trading ther..
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:45:26 PM): yss but assurance of only bearish momnetum will not help in option
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:45:51 PM): your levels will do the need ful
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:45:58 PM): see i can predict seeing charts
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:46:24 PM): but no one can predict manipulation
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:46:35 PM): yes that will definitely help
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:47:16 PM): we donot expect 100% frm any body except God
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:48:13 PM): laxmanji ur gains
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:48:30 PM): 2k in hpcl
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:49:00 PM): and still short in nifty hpcl and chambal
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:49:12 PM): ys sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:49:30 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:50:04 PM): i think u crossed 20 k for this month too
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:50:14 PM): ys sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:50:27 PM): what is ur figure
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:50:56 PM): ok sirji
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:51:04 PM): this month i got somewhere near 23k
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:51:16 PM): i am leaving bye
Arvind (7/19/2010 8:51:22 PM):
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:51:32 PM): and today we missed 5k due to 5 rs error
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:51:46 PM): ys sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:51:51 PM): buy arvind ji
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:52:21 PM): we placed 439.55 na
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:52:39 PM): and low was 444.40
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:52:46 PM): ts
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:53:01 PM): bad luck na
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:53:19 PM): i again placed it to 446.1 but not got
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:53:37 PM): that i gave u
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:53:41 PM): bad luck
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:53:56 PM): thinkig that will pull down
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:53:57 PM): ys sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:54:12 PM): just hard luck na
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:54:27 PM): hard luck
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:54:34 PM): we planned seeing intl mkt
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:54:46 PM): ys i admit
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:55:14 PM): ok
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:55:18 PM): let it be
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:55:50 PM): read more and more
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:56:18 PM): ys
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:56:54 PM): will help u
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:57:08 PM): o.k sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:58:38 PM): now who is present here
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:58:56 PM): iam
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:59:17 PM): u r talking to me
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:59:25 PM): m asking others
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 8:59:39 PM): o,k
Ram (7/19/2010 8:59:53 PM): me
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 8:59:57 PM): i think all are out
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 9:00:49 PM): ys perhaps hungry and gone for food
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:01:56 PM): u too leaving ///
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 9:02:34 PM): ys sir i feel hungry and iam seeking ur permisssion to leave
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:02:48 PM): please gn
lakshmanan (7/19/2010 9:02:55 PM): gn sir
Ram (7/19/2010 9:02:55 PM): Sir ve a query
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:03:09 PM): please tell me
Ram (7/19/2010 9:03:17 PM): on Zandu pharma
Ram (7/19/2010 9:04:02 PM): could u look at its charts and tel me wats its future near term
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:05:54 PM): see till now signals are nefgative
Ram (7/19/2010 9:06:41 PM): ok
Ram (7/19/2010 9:06:41 PM): thanks sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:06:52 PM): r u in trade ?
Ram (7/19/2010 9:07:11 PM): no ..
Ram (7/19/2010 9:08:07 PM): just wanted to know abt it.. read some news on that sometime back
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:09:17 PM): what was the news
Ram (7/19/2010 9:14:12 PM): let me find it for u
Ram (7/19/2010 9:14:25 PM): dint remember exactly
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:15:03 PM): leave it will u tell me ur todays gains
Ram (7/19/2010 9:16:14 PM): 2800 in chambal, in puts around 1.5k
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:16:40 PM): means 4.3k
Ram (7/19/2010 9:16:47 PM): yes sir
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:16:59 PM): and total since joining me..
Ram (7/19/2010 9:17:14 PM): still holding chambal short and fridays's 8lots of puts
Ram (7/19/2010 9:17:42 PM): am not sure abt it sir.. it will be somewhere around 13-15k
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:18:21 PM): ok
Ram (7/19/2010 9:18:32 PM): will update u later on that
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:18:38 PM): both will be cleared tom in pre mkt
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:18:43 PM): i think
Ram (7/19/2010 9:19:47 PM): hope so .. by seeing dow's trading range, guess both will go off tomo
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:19:57 PM): u can place pre mkt na
Ram (7/19/2010 9:20:15 PM): yes i can
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:20:24 PM): upto
Ram (7/19/2010 9:20:29 PM): but i never see my order executed at opening bell
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:20:37 PM): ok
Ram (7/19/2010 9:20:39 PM): 8:55
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:20:47 PM): place 66.25
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:21:06 PM): u shorted at 80 na
Ram (7/19/2010 9:21:27 PM): ok will do
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:21:45 PM): and place nifty pe at 81
Ram (7/19/2010 9:22:04 PM): sure
Ram (7/19/2010 9:28:29 PM): ok sir.. have to leave now
Ram (7/19/2010 9:28:30 PM): gn
Ram (7/19/2010 9:28:30 PM): bye
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:28:48 PM): gn
dhanvarshagrp (7/19/2010 9:29:00 PM): to all

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